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8 Feb 2012

Captain Charles Edwin Engle - Born February 8, 1945

 Today we celebrate the life of Chuck Engle.

 There are sites on the internet and sections in The Ravens that reflect how fearless and selfless he was.  You can read about some of his missions with awe.  You can learn what earned him the Air Force Cross, the Silver Star, the Distinguished Flying Cross. 

 If you are really fortunate, you can talk with some of those amazing Ravens who served with him.  A man among men, Chuck was respected for his extraordinary bravery and airmanship.  Or you might hear the endearing story of how Chuck took Britt Duncan up for an unforgettable plane ride on his 14th birthday.

 And still, these are fragments of a man who made a great difference to many.

 Most people in this world want to live a good life and make a worthy contribution.

We want to be honorable and noble, to love with all our hearts and to be loved deeply.

 Chuck was all of this and much more.  Not because he tried to be these things, but because he quietly lived true to his own high standards.  Those who knew him reading this now will understand exactly what I mean.

 He was a dear, beloved friend.  He will always be remembered with great love, admiration and respect.

 Lisa Levacy

lisalevacy@att.net

                                                                                  Chuck's photo underneath his name on the 

 

                                                                                        Vietnam Veterans' Memorial Wall

 

                                                                                     


 

6 Feb 2012

All Ravens and Friends: It is getting close to legacy time. Many of you have avoided talking about your past "sins" and exploits in military and clandestine service. This may prove to be a disservice to your grandchildren and great grandchildren.

 I wish I had more hard evidence besides a few photos about my ancestors. I never had the discussions with them that I now wish had happened. My own children grew up in a generation where reflection on war experience was discouraged in society. Now it is acceptable.

I am convinced that it is not self-promotion or bragging to share this part of your life history with the generations that follow. You may find that they are hungry for it or become curious as the years roll on and you are not there to fill in the blanks.

Do you want your grandkids to fight over the only remaining copy of the book in your family? Will there be more grandkids or great grandkids coming down the line who will not have a copy? Is there a possibility of family breakups where mementos and records become lost to half the family?

I will be surprised if this little note does not cause a flurry of purchases for "The Ravens" book real soon. It will be difficult to order this book from the grave or even after a severe stroke if communication is impaired. It happens--not to any of us, of course, but the possibility is something to contemplate.

A book with a personal note from you will mean much more than a dog-eared used copy that your progeny might be forced to buy on Amazon.com at inflated prices when it is out of print. Favorite nephew or niece that has an interest in your experience? Don't forget them. Birthday presents? Christmas gifts? Graduation gifts? That little note you are going to write inside the book is something that money can't buy for them. Oh Yeah!  Almost forgot. You can choose to underline or flag the index for key passages about grandpa.

And finally, how can I thank Christopher Robbins enough for the work he did on this book, and the Ravens who assisted him? When he was writing it, I thought it was about us. Now I understand that we are certainly nothing but temps. It is the legacy that matters--those that we love and the historical record that can be in their hands (if you put it there). That is what counts.

 

Larry Ratts, "Pepsi"

 


 

Hi folks,

 Happy Holidays.

 It has been awhile since I updated you on the status of our O-1 and I apologize for that.  We have been busy here all year with activities involving the North Texas Aviation Centennial.

 After your great response last spring, (51 people stepped forward and donated just over $12,000 to acquire the O-1 and bring it to Fort Worth).  At that time we estimated $6,000 to acquire and bring the airplane home and another $6,000 or so to repaint the airplane.  We still have $6,000 tucked away.

 After the aircraft arrived, we started putting it into long-term storage; removed the battery, covered the canopy, removed the plugs and such.  We started looking into its history, (still don't know much, probably Army), and looked at painting options, then the spring storms came through.  In the spring here, it is not unusual for our thunderstorms to contain hail.  All of our aircraft are outdoors, but we hadn't worried too much about hail damage since none of the other aircraft are flyers, except the O-1.  We sweated two or three of those storms and got lucky with no hail damage to our little bird.  Afterward we started thinking about and looking into some type of cover for the O-1 and our OV-10 Mockup.

 We were shocked at the first bid.  We were looking for something pretty simple that would cover 30' x 40' and keep hail off the Birddog.  The first bid came in at $72,000!!!  That was a non-starter so we looked farther and came up with an bid for $27,000, better, but too much.  We have continued to look and have found some options with prefabbed "Butler" type buildings we can erect ourselves.  Prices for these are down in the $18,000 range and we think we can get that down lower.  Problem is, we can paint or cover but not both.  Frankly, we think it is more important to put our little treasure under cover first.

 We have approached a local supporter who has made a very generous offer.  He has pledged up to $8,000 in matching funds for whatever we can raise for a shelter.  The prefab steel building seems the best way for us to go and the City of Fort Worth has said they will approve us putting a building up to protect airplanes.

 Once again we are asking for your help with the O-1.  We want to cover the O-1 before we paint it and will hold the $6,000 back for painting if we can raise about $8,000 to match funds and put up a building for about $16,000 or so.  It won't be fancy, just shelter.  We don't need the money right now either, just a pledge.

 So, if you have been looking for a year-end donation, please consider helping with a "Dog House" for out Birddog.  Just drop us a note and we will take it from there and work with whatever your timing is.  Your donation is tax deductible as we are a 501(c)3 non profit.

Have a great Christmas and please consider helping with this project to give our Dog a home.

 Thanks,

 Jim Hodgson

Executive Director

Forward Air Controller's Museum

(817) 291-6101

www.FACMuseum.org

 

 

 


 

Dec 2011

Good Evening Sir,

My Dad is a FAC and he raised me listening to old war songs taken from Marty Robins on a reel to reel. I can still remember  the old 8mm film Dr. Dick Ramey took while flying with him over Laos and Cambodia. My Dad, “Bill Bruner”, has passed and I guess the holidays have made me a little sentimental. I’m trying to find a CD of the old Fac War Songs. I haven’t had any luck thus far on the net. My Dad was a Covey and flew OV-10’s out of DaNang.

Merry Christmas and Semper Fi,

Sgt. Clint Bruner/ 0341

1910 Flat Creek Ct

Acworth, Ga 30101

678-458-2177 Cell

 


 

Nov 2011

I worked as an aircraft mechanic in support of the Ravens at Vientiane's Wattay Field (Lima 08) from June '69 to Dec '69. I don't remember the FAC pilots Raven call sign, but he went by Blackjack with us. Finding this site has brought back many memories and I have gotten my pictures out and have been going through them again.

 John Link

jlink@molachi.com


Nov 2011

Sir,

 I am a USAF student at the National Intelligence University. I am researching the unique role of the Raven in supporting MACV-SOG and other SOF units who conducted clandestine and overt missions in Laos.

This research is done with the intent of illuminating historical "best practices" which can be re-incorporated into Air Support to modern SOCOM missions.

 My thesis is: "To what extent does US SOCOM require "SOF Specific"

air-support of counter-terrorism operations?" My goal is to inform a USAF readership about some of the low tech solutions and unique C2 relations which made the Ravens effective.

 Please write back and let me know if you have any operators who would be willing to assist me by providing interviews and/or primary source material.

  Maj Jeremy "Maestro" Renken

F-15E/ AFELM DIA

Jeremy Renken [jeremy.renken00@gmail.com]


 

28 Oct 2011

A special thanks to Ed Gunter, Craig Duehring and my father, Kent Carter.

 8 1/2 years ago, these fine gentlemen helped me transfer from the Army to the Air Force.  Today, I'm serving as an advisor to the Afghan National Army.  It reminds of the Ravens, and how they worked and lived with the Hmong.  I'll always remember the reunion I attended back in 2002.  It was like meeting all of the heroes that I grew up reading about.

 Attached is a picture of me, my interpreter (Salem), and an Afghan LTC.

We're sitting on top of a 5K gallon fuel tanker that is delivering its load to an Afghan base that has spent the last 13 days without power and running water.  You could hear the cheers from across the camp as the power came back on. 

 Christian H. Carter, Maj, USAF

christian.h.carter@afghan.swa.army.mil

 


Oct 2011

Ravens,

I had the pleasure of meeting Tom "Waldo" King at the CAF "Airsho" at Midland (MAF) last weekend.  I told him that I was privileged to "crash" their gathering at Oshkosh 1996 and met several Ravens there, courtesy of my twin brother John, who flew T-39's with Larry Sanborn in late 70's. Enjoyed Robbins' book "The Ravens", and have a Ravens patch as a collector/souvenir item. May you all have a great reunion in SATX next week, and congratulations on your induction into the Hall of Fame there at Midland.

Best regards,

Fred Benenati,

Colonel, USAFR, DC (ret.)

1973-1993


Aug 2011

FYI

 

Imminent Threat to the Baltimore Poe House and Museum —
Likely Closure in 2012

Since December 18, 1977, the Edgar Allan Poe House and Museum at 203 Amity Street, in West Baltimore, has been run by the Commission for Historical and Architectural Preservation (CHAP), a division of the Department of Planning with the City of Baltimore. Unfortunately, the city, suffering under intense and continuing budgetary problems — and perhaps hoping that hardly anyone will notice — has decided that the Poe Museum must become self-sufficient or it must be closed. With no practical way of raising sufficient money on its own to cover the annual budget of about $85,000, closure is almost certain at the end of 2011 or early in 2012 — unless the city of Baltimore can be convinced to reconsider its position.

 

Ed Adams

Ed's Travel

3714 Crown Shore Drive

Dallas, Texas 75244

214-952-3266 

www.edstravel.info

 


 

10 June 2011

We are working on a display honoring the service of Charles E. Engle, Raven 26. His final resting place is about 20 miles south of our museum and we are in the process of getting his medals on loan, including his Air Force Cross, from his sister for a display. If anyone else has photos (scans are perfectly fine) of Chuck, we would love to have them to add to the display. Thank you for any help you can provide!

 

Matthew Simmons
Museum of the Soldier, Inc.
Board of Directors
http://www.museumofthesoldier.com/

 


 

3 June 2011

In your list of aircraft I did not find the C119  that we used in Southern China.  I flew many and crashed one so I know they were used with special ops  even as was the C46's.  Thank you for your info and for your remembrance of our work.  As I grow older, my thought go back the 50 years of our fellowship and the men I served with.  At times it brings tears to my eyes.  I guess that is one sign of an old man (73 in July)  God bless all!

 DAVIDWllmsbrg@aol.com

 


 

10 May 2010

To all Ravens,

 I'm John Lee from Fresno, CA. 20 year old attend Fresno City College. Majoring in Criminology.

I was a Air Force JROTC cadet all four years in high school at Duncan Polytechnical High School.

I'm also a former Air Force ROTC at Fresno State Detachment 035 (due to some personal issues, i left the program and gonna return when it is resolve A.S.A.P.)

 I want to thank all the RAVENS who are dead and alive for the service and duty they served for this country. I'm a Hmong American, who had an cousin, who served in the Royal Lao Army as an officer who led his own squad. He passed away two years ago. I saw a video about the RAVENS and how they and the Hmong people were closely working together to get their missions done. I never heard of the RAVEN until today when i was researching about the Secret War and read about the C.I.A. Covert Operations in Long Cheng. I read about the dangerous flying missions that RAVENS do and how many lives were lost. I personally think that the RAVENS were the Americans who really bonded with the Hmong people during the war. Once again thank you for giving your life to protect other from harm because we all know that FREEDOM ISN'T FREE. I also wanna ask if any RAVENS know or met one of the 1st Hmong Pilot, Captain Lee Lue, who flew the T-28 with over 5,000 combat missions and was shot down on July 12, 1969?

 GOD BLESS EVERYONE OF YOU 


 

3 May 2011

Denny was also my brother and like my sisters Sue (Morgan) Barnes, Judy (Morgan) Kay and my mother who is 91 years old I miss him very much.  For those of you who remember his "Hamburg Zoo" song, watch out for that Razor Bird!  God Bless ALL of you, and ALL of our men and women who serve out great country!  God Bless America!  I served in Vietnam as well.

Jeff Morgan

Grand Is., NY

 

 


 

20 April 2011

I am Captain Dennis E Morgan's sister and miss him very much!  He was killed in Laos 40 years ago and he remains in my heart.

 

Susie (Morgan) Barnes

 

Susan Barnes
Banking Officer, Retail Business Services 
One M&T Plaza, 14th Floor
716-842-5480
sbarnes@MTB

 

 

 


9 April 2011

Dear Ravens,

 I recently read the book by Robbins and so now I know your story.  I was born in '58 and never served.  I'm an oil and gas guy based in Houston but I've worked and lived all over Africa and Asia with Esso. 

In the early '80's I was a well sitter in NE Thailand - near the Lao border -  and we'd travel in and out of Udorn and Khon Kaen.  I knew that a lot had gone on during the war in that area but really had no idea about all of you, the CAS, 20A and so forth. Incredible.

  From time to time I'd work in our office in Bangkok and the Texan bar was a favorite hangout, and it was there I became acquainted with Pat Landry (I'm guessing that he's the one 2nd from the right in Craig Morrison picture of the CAS guys with their backs to the camera).  We knew Pat was a former CAS guy but he just smile and said he was an insurance salesman during the war!

 Anyway, God Bless you guys, God Bless America, and it would be my pleasure to buy Fred and/or others a drink next time I'm in Houston (in Abu Dhabi now). 

All the best-

 Peter Claypool


From: lukexiong10@gmail.com
To: edgunter@aol.com
Sent: 2/24/2011 6:18:45 P.M. Central Standard Time
Subj: Thank you!

 Mr. Gunter: 

While there are many words I would like to express, none comes close to just simply saying "THANK YOU" to all of you at  RAVENS.ORG for making available scholarships for the children of your fellow Hmong friends.

 None touches me more than giving these children the opportunity to have an equal opportunity in this country.

 I've TRIED very hard to read into my past, and each time I do, such emotions rang up like a firestorm.  Some good, some not so good.

What I've found over the years is that we Hmong are not very much different from all you Raven folks, or the Veterans coming back from Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia, Burma.

 So, without going any further, let me just say again, THANK YOU for your sincere help and giving these children an OPPORTUNITY.

 Thank You All, 

Lue (Luke) Xiong

 


 

22 Feb 2011

Today, 22Feb11, marks 40 years since the loss of Raven 26, Chuck Engle.

 I was sad the night Chuck died. It was the same night, I got word within hours of his crash. I tried to write to his mom then, but I think it took a couple of days before I could write anything that made sense. I remember very vividly trying to compose that letter. What can a kid of 14, say to a grieving mom? But I wanted to relay to her how very much I admired Chuck and how special he made my birthday by taking me up in his Bird Dog.

 Now, I get to relive those times that he was alive and I smile. I relish those memories, I enjoy looking back, I anticipate this day only because those good times and good people get front row seating in my daydreams. Of course I think of Chuck and so many others at odd moments all throughout the year. Absolutely each Veteran's Day and Memorial Day, but the major holidays too (because so many of the Ravens and Air Commandos would come to our house for an American meal - turkey dinner w/ trimmings). Those were the days of my youth and guys like Chuck made then unforgettable, unique, and amazing. I am one of the privileged for knowing Chuck and I do not take that honor lightly. I will never forget him!

 I will toast to Chuck's memory tonight. I will celebrate the days I spent with him while he convalesced his ankle wound. I will thrill at the memories of his skill in the air. I will salute his service, his bravery, and his dedication to liberating the oppressed people of South East Asia. God Bless Him!

  

Semper Fi

Britt Duncan

Air America dependant, VTE, Laos


2 Feb 2011

One of the things I enjoy having done in life is getting to know a Raven FAC:  Raven 28-Jeff Thompson.  Now, there’s an American. 

Don Hoover

Columbus, MS


23 Jan 2011

I was enlisted Air Force from 1960-1967 and did not see duty in Viet Nam. Thanks very much for this website that identifies for me so many heroes who went above and beyond the call of duty. Thanks for all who are discussed here.

 Bob Rosson


 

23 Jan 2011

my name is Gerald Davis TSGT.USAF RET. 

I served with the 19TASS Dec 69-Dec 70. 

Sqdn. Maint Scheduler. 

 


 

23 Jan 2011

Dear All former RAVENS, 

I possibly did not know you when you flew the RAVENS stationed in Long Tien. I was one of the Liaison Officer who flew daily with one of the America Officers to the front field, like Bamboo, Kai Et, etc.. I got a couple of them. Mr. Clean and Jerry Daniels were my immediate supervisors.

 I was trained English in Udorn Thani for one year and received a USAF certificate for Foward Air Guide (FAG) before returning back to Long Tien in 1971-74.

 We, the Hmong do not have good photographs or any type of photos to keep for our history. If you do love and support our Hmong, please provide your photagraphs for us.

 Thanks many of you who have been our sides and have conttinuously make our mainstream understand wha are the Hmong  and why they are here.

 God bless you and your family members.

 Jin Ling

 PS. attach them to an email and send to ncokoj08@gmail.com.  Total file size for each individual email including pictures attached must be less than 10 MB. Please provide information about each photo. 

 Once more, please accept my warmest thanks


 

17 Jan 2011

From 68 to 70 I was stationed with the 37th ARRSq at Da Nang, if it was not for you all our Jolly Greens would not made it home as offen as we did do to what protection and sure fire on the ground for the P.J.'s, which I was one. Thanks for everything you did for us all those years ago....

Michael J. Sherman

USAF Retired P.J.


 

14 Jan 2011

Hey Ravens,

 I know it has been a couple of years since the documentary.  I wanted to let you guys know that I think of you all often.   I moved to Philly and now have two little girls, 5 and 2  1/2.  I would love to hear from you guys and I hope everyone is well.

 Mika Holliday Lentz

mh@lentz1.com